Boot Won't Open Help Please

[Mauser]

Hi guys,

Went shopping but boot wouldn't open with remote locking ?, used key to open but when I got home it won't open at all not even with the key ?.

Desperate for help as boots essential for me and the family, tried all sorts but its just locked solid :rolleyes:.

Cheers Mauser

[seatkid]

Does the fuel filler lock work OK? Need year of car for more detailed

answer....

[Guest nimrod]

You dont say which model Galaxy you have? but IIRC its a MK1? V reg 1999? if so your stuffed! :rolleyes: as the hatch trim panel is held in place by 9 screws around the outer edge of the hatch :unsure: and i dont think you can get access to the lock to trip it manually through the two hatches to change the rear bulbs through :ph34r: if the worse comes to it you may have to cut a new access hole in order to get to the lock! :)

[Davetheref]

Sorry, stupid question. what does IIRC mean?

[Mauser]

Sorry lads,

Your correct its a 2.3 99 V plate model, I can see the lock catch at the bottom of the inner panel through a small notch in the panel, there is sign's of rubber which looks like its come off the lock catch maybe this has jammed the lock ?.

I have tried turning the key to the unlock position then trying to release the catch but with no luck :unsure:. As you say the panel won't come out but I can get limited access down from the top but I am not sure what I am trying to release. Has anyone got any idea's where the emergency release catch is please ?.

I think once I get the tailgate open I can sort the lock... just getting the bugger open is the hard bit :ph34r:.

Thanks for the replies appreciated.

What with this and house extension going wrong my luck must change :rolleyes:.

Cheers Mauser

[Eddie]

Sorry, stupid question. what does IIRC mean?

 

 

 

IIRC: //

Common abbreviation for “If I Recall Correctly”.

[Guest nimrod]

There isnt an emergency release catch :rolleyes: you have to physically trip the lock where it grips the latch! its a spring loaded ratchet job that has to be released and allows the lock to spring open

just a thought but when you try to open the hatch by useing the outer handle can you hear the lock motor whirring?

[Guest nimrod]

Just an idea is there another galaxy owner you know or one near you that would let you remove the hatch panel so you can see the lock and how it operates?

[Mauser]

Cannot say I have heard the lock winning ?,

Tried all sorts today removed light cluster trying to get access to the lock but with no joy, spoke to Ford who said only way in was to break the trim :rolleyes:,

[Guest nimrod]

give me half an hour! going outside to remove my hatch panel so i can give you better details of which bit to flick on the lock

[Mauser]

Hi Nimrod,

Can see what appears to be a servo unit right down bottom of the panel.... cannot remove the electrical plug as hands cut to bits and to far down :unsure:, theres loads of white clips holding the panel on so will be big job to smash off if it comes to it :ph34r:.

Thanks for all the help please don't destroy your motor looking for me :rolleyes:.

Mauser

[Guest nimrod]

Right had a look at my hatch lock, can you see the lock mech? if so can you see a small micro switch? if you can and there is power to it push it, but try not to get your fingers trapped by the solenoid when it operates!

if you cant see it gently feel around and try to operate it! or feel around where the lock barrel is and try to push the small lever sitting near it towards the passenger side of the car, its going to a bit of a poke and hope job if you cant see the lock mech! :rolleyes:

yes the lock is electrically operated, as seatkid says does the fuel flap lock? if not you may have lost power to the relay under the passenger seat which provides power to the rear hatch and fuel flap

in the worse case scenario and you have to break the trim panel cut a hole in it with a sharp craft knife where the lock is, its only pressed card and will cut fairly easily! i

[Ivor_E_Tower]

...and what's the betting that a wire or two has broken in the loom to the tailgate causing all this hassle in the first place?

[Guest nimrod]

Could be with the lock being electrically operated! but if the right lever is pushed it will open, I have done on a Galaxy in a breakers that had no front end on it so hence no power but the lock still opened :rolleyes:

[NikNak]

Just a thought......... you say that there might be a piece of rubber trapped in there somewhere? Well, try pushing the door toward the closed position (i.e. downwards), then while holding it in that position lift the tailgate release and see if that works. It could be that it needs a bit or 'release' to enable it to release....... if that makes sense... :rolleyes:

 

Nick

[Mauser]

Hi guys,

After many cuts and scatches to my arms and much stressing of the trim I reached the bottom solonoid arm and managed to push it over which released the door. I found Nimrod's micro switch once I had removed the panel.... I would never have seen it with the panel on :ph34r:, anyway we the panel now off I can open the door by pushing the solonoid in, but neither the micro switch or the door handle will make the catch release. I have unpluged the power connector to the solonoid and tested it by opening the door handle but no power ?, the door makes a noise which might be the door handle micro switch, does anyone know where the power feed for the solonoid comes from ?, it feeds into the loom and then disappears up the door. The petro flap works fine but I guess there is some relay / control to allow the power to feed to the solonoid when the door is ready to be opened e.g. when the central door locks are open.

Many thanks again to you all at least I can open the door ina fashion... not exactly Ghia standards though :) .

Trim is still intact and latch has only slight screwdriver marks in it :rolleyes:.

Just need to find the power source :unsure:.

Mauser

[Guest nimrod]

Power supply for the hatch and fuel flap is from a load reduction relay under the front passenger seat, it could be as Ivor suggested that the wires in the rubber boot have broke due the constant flexing! IIRC the wires to the lock motor are green/blue and black/red

[Mauser]

Ok,

But am I right in thinking the power for the release solonoid is fed from this relay ?. I would have thought so being a current device pulling a few amps, the supply for the petrol flap is it the same feed ?, as the flap releases OK. I would have thought the boot solonoid would be a switch supply from the central locking so when the doors are opened and the handle lifted this in turn would supply power to the release solonoid catch on the tailgate ?.

Might be wrong so please try and explain where the power comes from and why the filler flap works OK ?. Also what would be the best way to repair the fault if a wire is broken on the tailgate loom ?, I have the soldered heat shrink joints @ work... if they are suitable.

Cheers Mauser

PS anywhere I can get a wiring diagram or picture of the circuit ?.

[Guest nimrod]

get hold of a haynes book or a copy of the TIS both have wireing diags in them, the rear hatch lock is a seperate circuit to the fuel flap but is powered by the same fuse!

check the continuity of the cables from the main body to the locking mech, its a very common problem for these cables to fail! there is a connector for the rear hatch in the rear storage compartment on the passenger side behind the access panel to the rear lights

[HJT]

Mauser, if you want to PM me your address, I'll stick a copy of the TIS CD in the post to you.

 

Howard

[Mauser]

Ta m8ty,

Have sent you address via PM etc :).

Will check wiring tomorrow Nimrod thanks, think mine is drivers side unless your left hand drive version :). Sure wiring loom goes through off-side roof ?.

Will see if its bust some how.

Just wondering if I hold the handle up with the door open does the signal to the solonoid remain on all the time or would it be a pulse ?.

I could try holding handle and wigglying cable to see if is suddenly unlocks.

Going back to the microswitch you would think Ford would have a small rubber bung on the trim so that if the door fails you could press the switch from outside the trim :).

There again thats to simple I guess and wouldn't have let me in with no power.

Cheers Mauser

[Guest nimrod]

TIS says the connector is in the left hand side storage compartment? pull out the rubber boots on both side of the hatch and check all the wires to be sure though!

if the lock is locked even with the hatch lifted mine still works, not sure if it pulses as I havent tested mine, YET! :)

maybe a good idea to drill a hole and stick in a blank rubber grommit so if it ever happens again you can just pop the grommit and flick the catch

[Mauser]

Noooooooooooooooo :)

Just found the fault as mentioned above its a broken wire in the loom @ the hinge point rang Ford who are quoting

[Guest nimrod]

Glad to hear you found the problem, I crimped a new length of cable in to place to replace the duff section and poked the joints through into the panel at either end so they dont move when the hatch is opened or shut

[seatkid]

rang Ford who are quoting